The closest I ever came to a religious experience was listening to Ivan Illich. it or not). I devoured both Medical Nemesis and Limits to Medicine,† and now . In this book, Ivan Illich offers a harsh critique of health care as provided in western industrialized societies during the s. However, he did. This is the opening statement and basic contention of Ivan Illich’s searing social critique. In Limits to Medicine Ivan Illich has enlarged on this theme of disabling.

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At the illiich, the early nineties, he has a pronounced tumor on his neck for which, I was told, he had received no treatment. Mar 19, Marilyn McEntyre rated it really liked it. Illich may be right, but he does not provide us with a confidence interval.

The concept of Nemesis comes from the Greek Nemesis: Summary In this book, Ivan Illich offers a harsh critique of health care as provided in western industrialized societies during the s. Mevicine good that you apply your skepticism to books that favor your own bias. Thanks for telling us about the problem.

Wendy Savage came to speak about the over-medicalisation of childbirth. The current state of medical thought takes the patient, a person, and turns them into an object with a problem to be fixed. Goodreads helps you keep track of books you want to read. Whilst you appear to be very anti-medication you seem not to have a lot of advice on how to manage these over medicalised normal mental states, how for instance do my family manage my 4 week periods of sleeping 2 hrs per night, relentless decorating and rearranging the house, constant talking, overspending and climbing the banisters over a large drop to paint the ceiling as it never occurs to me that I would injure myself.


However, my eyes being poor, Limiits read only some of them and those with difficulty.

Limits to Medicine–Medical Nemesis: The Expropriation of Health

In this setting we function a million times more efficiently because we have natural capabilities in our brain for sensing illness and problems in our lives. Open Preview See a Problem?

Sort of like big global healthcare and mdeicine regulations and such-sounds politically familiar. Jul 23, Tom Muddiman rated it really liked it. Oct 12, Jonathan Hockey rated it it was amazing. His argument was that doctors are the last people who should be asked to comment on and control the state of medicine. I rank this with Marx’s Communist Manifesto Reading this as a medical student it made the most perfect lucid sense.

May 23, Phil rated it it was amazing. Treating patients based on probabilities of success is considered by Illich to be experimentation. Limite 16, Iva rated it really liked it Shelves: There is a whole lot of bullshit one must sort through to find a nugget of truth in these writings.

While illichh may lack compassion and seem formulaic, all treatments and in fact all decisions, in the absence of certainty are based on balancing probabilities. It consists not only of making individuals but whole populations survive on inhumanly low levels of personal health. So for the health care system, the focus limitts industrial output of new treatment creates a dependence on hospitals and medicines and insurance that prevent citizens from understanding their own power for self-care, so that in the end we end up dumping ever more resources into a system that in fact is now harming, rather than helping, health.


Would liked to have spent time with Illich in Mexico.

Illich presents a powerful case to show the wider context and grander scale of the problem. More is not better, but harmful in this case. They protest, and we don’t listen – the medical-industrial complex is a ‘right’ we will force upon them!

If I had limots all these notes I wou My office at Loyola sponsored Illich to speak to our pre-med students on which occasion I was introduced to him. Setelah ‘Matinya Gender’ dan ‘Deschooling Society’, saya terus mencari karya Illich yang lain, dan tak menyangka akan menemukan satu lagi buku bagus yang menjelaskan pada saya bagaimana sejatinya unsur-unsur di dunia serba modern ini berjalan.

Limits to Medicine: Medical Nemesis: The Expropriation of Health

However, he did not write this book as a health care expert. We’ve created a cotton wool society where no one trusts their innate ability to regulate their own health.

Mark rated it it was amazing Apr 18, Difficult as this is to write as a doctor, there is something inherently degrading about medicine.